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Monday, October 30, 2017

JUST LIKE THAT REISSUED!

Hi folks,

Got some news--Down and Out Books has just reissued my novel, JUST LIKE THAT! It has a new cover which I really like. If you haven't read it before you might want to glom onto a copy now. It's about 85% autobiographical and is centered on a road trip I made with a rappie from Pendleton and on my time in the joint.



Assistant Warden Cathy Johns of The Farm (Louisiana state joint at Angola) read it and told me it was "the truest account of the criminal mind" she'd ever read. One thing I promise--you won't see any bullshit about "shivs" or any crap like the myth MSNBC puts out about prisons in it...

Hope you get a copy and hope you enjoy the read. If you like it, please consider leaving a short review on Amazon and Goodreads. It's the single best thing you can do for a writer and we appreciate it when you do.

Blue skies,
Les
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Friday, October 13, 2017

A COUPLE OF OPENINGS IN OUR ONLINE NOVEL-WRITING CLASS

Hi folks,

As most of you know, I run an online novel writing class that runs for ten weeks at a time and is in operation year-round. We’re coming up to the end of the current session this week, and then will take a couple of weeks off and then begin the next session on October 29. Most times, we don’t have openings for new class members, but it looks as if we’re going to have a couple of openings this time, so I just want to let folks know in case anyone’s interested. If you are, please send me an email at butchedgerton@comcast.net and let me know. Below, I’ll give an outline of how it works. When new openings occur, first chance to join is given to the adjuncts and after that it’s a first-come, first-served basis. To be able to devote the proper time to each student, the class will be limited to twelve people. An unlimited number of adjuncts are taken.

Me and Joe Lansdale in Indy after a meal...


Auditors
Those interested in auditing the class—which would allow the auditing person to receive and view everything the rest of the class does, but not be able to participate actively, solely as an observer. The fee is substantially less for auditors than participating students at $50. Basically, auditors will sit in on the class as an observer. There can be an unlimited number of auditors. Some in class are uncomfortable with very many observing their work and our exchanges as, to be honest, many of our comments are brutally frank. Students know and welcome this, but to someone not directly participating can see it another way. There won’t be any interaction at all with auditors—they’ll be there simply to use the knowledge they might pick up for their own writing or even their own teaching.

Pertinent info for active class members:
This class will be conducted in a workshop format. What that means is each week participants will send a designated number of pages to both me and the other members of the class. When I receive each person’s work, I’ll provide comments/criticism/suggestions to improve for each student on their work and then send it back to them and the others in class. Each person in class does the same for each other—reading and providing comments on each other’s work and sending that back to the class and me. The class is divided into two groups so each person will need to read and comment on 5-6 people’s work. That doesn’t mean they can’t read work from those in the other group—anyone can read anyone else’s work. This is just to keep each member’s work down to a reasonable level. It’s exactly like being in an “on-ground” workshop. I’ve found over a lifetime of teaching classes—beginning with the UCLA Writer’s Program—that this is the single best method of learning. There is a synergy at work with this model. Many writing classes consist of the student sending work in and the instructor commenting. That’s okay, in a limited way, but when you have ten others plus the instructor or workshop leader commenting, the value of the class increases almost exponentially.

I believe in road maps when embarking on the lengthy journey a novel entails; therefore, I ask each student to submit a 15-20 word outline of their proposed novel. I don’t have the space here to explain how that works, but I send a handout on how to create such an outline before the class begins, and it serves to keep the writer focused on their novel throughout its creation and also helps the workshop leader and his/her classmates see instantly if the writer is focused or meandering. I’m a firm believer in beginning a novel in the proper place and once that is achieved, the remainder of the novel becomes infinitely easier to create. We’ll spend the most time on a writer’s novel beginning than any other part of their novel.

This class will be composed of students who’ve previously taken classes with me along with newcomers. To be able to serve each level of student fairly, students who are well along into their novel and have taken previous classes, will be able to submit up to eight pages per week. New students who haven’t taken my class, will be allowed to submit up to four pages per week until they’ve achieved a publishable opening, and, once they’ve achieved a proper beginning, will then be able to send eight pages each week thereafter. Please know that this may sound like favoritism, but it’s not at all. The beginning of a novel is the single most crucial part of writing a novel, imo, and I spend more time on that than anything else. I’ve learned over many years, that a great many writers have a poor understanding of a novel’s structure and it’s crucial that a sound knowledge of novel structure (particularly beginnings) be achieved before devoting much time to the rest of the novel. I’ll spend as much time on the newer student’s four pages than I will on the more experienced writer’s. Please feel free to query those in class who’ve been with me before as to their opinion and I feel certain they’ll agree with me. I’ll be happy to furnish names and email addresses for those writers should you wish to ask their opinion.

Periodically, I also send handouts to the class on some element of writing, as well as other pertinent info that’s useful.

Be forewarned that this workshop isn’t for the faint of heart! Some have termed it “Les Edgerton’s Bootcamp for Writers.” In “real life” I’m not a mean person, but with writing I’m not going to hold hands nor hand out false praise. That’s what writing groups are for and they do it well. I expect each person to participate fully and comment on each other’s work just as they would want others to do the same for theirs. I don’t tolerate very well, those who keep making the same mistakes week after week. For example, the proper and professional format is explained at the beginning and each class there are always one or two newcomers who keep making the same, easily-fixed mistake. Here’s a common example: One of the format rules is that there is only one space between sentences in computer-generated material. Many older writers, in the typewriter days of yore, were taught to use two spaces. The kernaling in computers is different than typewriters and using two spaces is a sure sign of an amateur who hasn’t kept up with current usages and just another red flag a writer ought to avoid. I understand it’s a hard habit to overcome—I had to do the same myself—but there is an easy way to relearn this which we give, and even if it takes awhile to relearn this, a writer can at least do a final edit before sending work in and correct this. To not do so, indicates to me a writer who doesn’t respect either themselves or their fellow writers or the teacher. Frankly, I don’t want to waste time with this type of writer. I’m not speaking of the writer who makes occasional mistakes, but of the one who continually keeps making the same mistake after it’s been pointed out.

Writing well isn’t easy. It’s hard. If someone has told you that writing is easy, they’ve lied to you. Typing is easy; writing is hard. Our aim in our class is to help writers create publishable work. By reputable publishers, not vanity presses.

If I haven’t scared you off, here are the particulars:

1. Fee is $400, payable in advance and nonrefundable. Auditor’s fee is $50 and is also nonrefundable.

2. Each week, you’ll send to the entire group and me, your pages. You’ll also receive work from your classmates to read and provide comments on. The comments aren’t intended to be scholarly or exhibit some high degree of technical knowledge. We just want to know what worked for you in the writing and what didn’t and why you think it did or didn’t.

3. To help make the class run smoothly, there will be deadlines each week. For instance, if the class begins on a Sunday each week, you’ll send in your work by the following Wednesday. Then, starting on Thursday, you’ll send in your comments on each other’s work. I’ll send my comments to each of you by Saturday night. Then, the next week begins on the following Sunday.

4. Often, the class and I kind of hit a wall. It’s pretty intense. To account for that event, we may take a week hiatus and return the following week. In fact, you can pretty well count on that.

5. We don’t expect a student to be a professional writer at all. It’s a class, not an advanced degree program. Our aim is to help each writer become better at their craft as a result of the class, and to learn how to professionally submit material, and to hopefully end up creating work that is publishable legitimately.

6. While I would never say I would recommend students to agents or publishers, very often I do. The people who finish the class almost always have progressed to the point where their work is, indeed, publishable, and when that happens I’m eager to introduce them and their work to gatekeepers.

7. Required reading will be my book, HOOKED, and Jack Bickham’s book, SCENES & STRUCTURE. Recommended reading will be Janet Burroway’s WRITING FICTION.

If anyone is interested and has more questions, please feel free to email me at butchedgerton@comcast.net.

Thank you,

Les




P.S. Some additional info…

We’ll have a couple of new students this time—most writers keep re-upping each time but occasionally one or two will drop out for various reasons: demands of a new job not allowing them to commit the considerable time that is required to participate, needing time off to address the notes their new agent just gave them for the novel he signed, and so on. Most just keep on, even after they’ve gotten an agent and/or sold their novel, and begin writing a new one. Almost all who stick out the entire session come back. The ones who quit usually quit fairly soon into the class. It’s not for everyone. Nobody holds anybody’s hand and every single one of us is focused on but one thing—helping each other write a novel that’s publishable. It’s a tough game and not for everyone.

I try to warn people who are thinking of joining us, how tough the class is, but I know from past experience that even so forewarned, at least some are going to be in for a shock when they see that we really don’t hold hands, pat people on the back for minimum efforts, or overlook writing that doesn’t work. I’m not cruel (at least I don’t think so) nor are any of the oldtimers in class, but most new folks haven’t been exposed to a class like ours. The truth is, most writers who haven’t had a class like ours has been praised in other classes or most likely, has been in classes that use the “sandwich” method of teaching. You know—that deal where the teach applies a bit of praise, then a bit of criticism, and then a bit of praise. Well, that ain’t our shtick. Not even close. The comments we all provide on everyone’s work fit one definition only. They’re honest.

This isn’t to be mean or to act like we’re the only folks around who know what good writing is. Except… we do. I’m not aware of any other class out there with the kind of track record ours enjoys. Virtually every writer who stays the course with us ends up with a top agent and/or a book deal. That doesn’t happen in a single ten-week session. About the earliest anyone has earned an agent or book deal in our class has been about a year. And, that’s reasonable.

The thing is, our writers don’t expect things to be easy.

Here are a few comments by students:

Hi ________. Since Les opened the floor for comments from the "class veterans" I'm chipping in with my two cents. I have a file cabinet filled with stuff I sent Les and then needed asbestos gloves to take the paper off the printer. When I started this journey, I'd never taken an English class past high school. (I was pre-med in college) I figured I love to read, so how hard can it be? Okay, quit laughing at me. Clearly, when I wrote my first version of my first novel, I had no idea about story structure, POV, any of that. I figured I'm pretty articulate and therefore I can write?

Les quickly set me straight. All of this is to point out that we've all been on the receiving end of Les' brutal honesty. I will find some of the comments he made on my work and post them but phrases like "throwing up in my mouth now" and "bury this so deep in the yard no one ever finds it" are seared into my brain and I don't have to look to find those!!! The point is, I took other classes before I met Les and the teachers were kind and gentle and never told me I sucked. If it weren't for Les, I'd still be churning out awful drivel that makes people want to throw up instead of trying not to throw up while I wait to see if my agent is able to sell my book. I would never have gotten an agent without Les. So hang in there. Listen to everything he says and if it doesn't make sense, ask away.

The novel that I am currently trying to sell has been a work in progress since 2009. The first time Les saw it he sent it back and told me to re-write the WHOLE thing!!! My character was a wimp. She sat back and let things happen to her. I argued a little, rewrote a little and then moved on to another book. After a year, I went back and reread it and saw the truth. It was awful. So I took a deep breath and started over. Page one. First sentence. Re-wrote the entire thing. It took a full year and then I revised it again. It's definitely a process. But once you get the Inciting incident and the outline steps down pat, it's a whole lot easier. Trust me!!! And you'll never graduate completely. A few months ago, Les and I went head-to-head on one single passage. I was trying to be lazy and take the easy way out. He called me on it and I resubmitted three or four weeks in a row, revisions on the same passage. I was sure my classmates were so sick of it they were going to stick needles in their eyes rather than read it again! But in the end, the passage rocked!! So hang in there!!!! It'll get better.

That’s all, folks…


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Wednesday, October 4, 2017

HOOKED... WITH JERRY JENKINS...

Hi folks,

Got an unusual post today. Recently, I was invited by mega bestselling author Jerry Jenkins  (Left Behind series and many other bestsellers) to take part in an interview with him for his Master Class series of classes for writers on my book Hooked. We had a blast and here's the video his crew headed by Matt Lempert produced. Jerry has generously allowed me to post it on my blog and other sites.

To watch it in its entirety, click here. I see it's possible to click on the picture below, but if you do, you only see half of the picture and none of my lovely kisser, so to see the whole enchilada, just click on the link. Thanks!

Fiction that Grabs Readers at Page 1 with Les Edgerton


Any and all comments are appreciated!

Blue skies,
Les
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MAGNA CUM MURDER!


Hi folks,

In a few weeks, I’m heading down the road to Indianapolis for the Magna cum Murder convention, held from Oct. 20-22. This will be my second time at this writers/fans convention and it’s one of the best around. This time I’ll be privileged to take part in two panels, one as the moderator and the other as a panelist.

Click here to go to their webpage. 

  1. E.B. and Bertha C. Ball Center
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  3. Magna cum Murder


My first panel is Saturday, October 21, 2017, followed by a booksigning.

1:30-2:25 p.m. Title: All In A Day's Work Description: When your protagonist's day job is integral to the plot Moderator/Panelists: Les Edgerton (moderator), Mary Anna Evans, Joe Reese, T'Gracie Reese, Lorena Reith, Jr

Booksigning at:
4th Floor 2:30-2:55 p.m. Signings: Mary Anna Evans, Les Edgerton, Donna Moore, Joe Reese, T'Gracie Reese, Lorena Reith, Jr., Andrew Taylor, Caroline Todd, Charles Todd, Reavis Wortham Library Messanine

My second panel is on Sunday morning from 9-9:55 a. m.

Title: Too Much Of Anything Is A Bad Thing Description: Where do you stand on on-the-page violence? Moderator/Panelists: Dianna Collier (moderator), Les Edgerton, Ruth Dudley Edwards, John Gilstrap, Andrew Taylor

Followed by a booksigning from 10:00-10:25 a.m.
Signings: Carolyn Paul Branch, Les Edgerton, Ruth Dudley Edwards, John Gilstrap, Susan Kiernan-Lewis, Carolyn Mulford, Susan Oleksiw, Elaine Orr, J.R. Ripley, C.L. Shore, Sheila Sobel, Andrew Taylor, Charles Todd L

There are a bunch of other great panels you can check out on the site.

Hope to see some of you guys there!

Blue skies,

Les
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Hi! Welcome to my blog. To introduce myself, I'm a full-time writer with eighteen books in print and I teach creative writing on the university level, through private coaching of writers, and on various on-line venues. I write in a variety of forms: novels, short stories, nonfiction books, screenplays and the subjects I choose to write about are just as varied, including sports, literary fiction, thrillers, black comedy and the craft of writing. I'm married to Mary and we have a son, Mike. I have two daughters--Britney and Sienna--from a previous marriage. I immigrated to Ft. Wayne, IN from the U.S.A. and it's where I still live today. Doing my best to learn the language and adjust to the culture. I have a checkered past, having spent two-plus years incarcerated at Pendleton Reformatory back in the sixties for burglary. I'm all cleaned up now and you can invite me into your home and don't have to count the silverware when I leave. Graduated from Indiana University with a B.A. in General Studies (Honors of Distinction); obtained an MFA in Writing from Vermont College. Email: butchedgerton@comcast.net Twitter: HookedOnNoir
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Joe Lansdale

Les Edgerton has swiftly become my favorite crime writer. Original voice, uncompromising attitude and a pure hardboiled style leap him to the front ranks of my reading list. He will become legendary.

Joe R. Lansdale, Author, Paradise Sky, Hap and Leonard, and many others

Ken Bruen

I recently sent copies of THE RAPIST and THE BITCH to one of the best writers in the world, Ken Bruen. I just wanted to get on his radar and nothing else. He misunderstood and thought I was asking for a blurb... so he gave me one. Although unsolicited, it meant the world to me. Here's Mr. Bruen's email:

Dear Les

Thank you so much for the books and the superb novels.

You sure have lived the life and have a nice light touch in describing it.

I loved the novels.

Here is my blurb

Les Edgerton is the reincarnation of our beloved Eddie Bunker.

The writing is as tough and tender as Bunker with that wonderful sense of dry humour that underpins even the most violent of scenes.

This guy can write and like a focused Bukowski.

Make no mistake, here is the real deal.

The books cry out for movie deals.

Warmest wishes

Ken Bruen


On HOOKED

I read every writing book that comes down the pike, and I like a lot of them. But I LOVE Hooked / write fiction that grabs readers at page one and never lets them go! As punchy as Les Edgerton’s hard-hitting fiction, Hooked takes no prisoners. Clear, simple, direct, it offers something fresh in every chapter. I recommend it to all my students and even my colleagues. Your writing library won’t be complete without it.

Jerry Jenkins

Best-selling author of the Left Behind series and many others


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HARD TIMES

HARD TIMES
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ADRENALINE JUNKIE

ADRENALINE JUNKIE

JUST LIKE THAT

JUST LIKE THAT

LAGNIAPPE

LAGNIAPPE

The Death of Tarpons

The Death of Tarpons
Paperback edition from Betimes Books

THE DEATH OF TARPONS

THE DEATH OF TARPONS
Ebook version from Endeavour Press (UK)

BOMB

BOMB
Newest novel!

THE GENUINE, IMITATION, PLASTIC KIDNAPPING

THE GENUINE, IMITATION, PLASTIC KIDNAPPING
It's here!

THE BITCH

THE BITCH
Spinetingler Magazine nominee for Best Novel, Legends category

THE RAPIST

THE RAPIST
Available now from New Pulp Press and Amazon

THE RAPIST- German Edition

THE RAPIST- German Edition
Pulpmaster

MIRROR, MIRROR

MIRROR, MIRROR
Young adult thriller

FINDING YOUR VOICE

FINDING YOUR VOICE
Craft book on the writer's voice

HOOKED: Write Fiction That Grabs Readers at Page One and Never Lets Them Go

HOOKED: Write Fiction That Grabs Readers at Page One and Never Lets Them Go
Craft book on story beginnings

MONDAY'S MEAL Ebook

MONDAY'S MEAL Ebook

Monday's Meal

Monday's Meal
NY Times compared me to Raymond Carver in the review.

Perfect Game USA and the Future of Baseball

Perfect Game USA and the Future of Baseball
History of the world's biggest youth baseball scouting service

The Death of Tarpons

The Death of Tarpons
My first novel--was awarded a Special Citation from the Violet Crown Book Awards

SURVIVING LITTLE LEAGUE

SURVIVING LITTLE LEAGUE
Co-written by Mike and Les Edgerton. Spoof on "daddyball."

BEST THRILLER OF 2011 AWARD

BEST THRILLER OF 2011 AWARD
Preditors and Editors Award

Nominee for Best Thriller of 2014

Nominee for Best Thriller of 2014
THE RAPIST

Sent to me by my colleague Holly Love. This is my "signature store" in Boulder, Colorado. BLUE SKIES, EVERYONE!

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NEVER LET ANYONE RENT SPACE IN YOUR HEAD

Also... Senility isn't when you forget to zip up your pants... it's when you forget to zip them down...

Advice for writers: There is no such thing as a synonym. There's just the perfect word. The perfect word doesn't come in groups.

If life hands you lemons... make lemonade. Then... try to find someone to whom life has handed vodka...

Never argue with an idiot. They'll drag you down to their level... and then beat you with experience.

Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

The value of the study of philosophy: Studying the deep thoughts of others is like studying their stools to figure out how to cook what they ate. It may be possible, but it's not worth what you have to wade through.

Two rules to live by to have a good life I gave to my son Mike:
1. Never date a girl named after a day of the week.
2. Never play poker with anyone named after a city.

The writer's only responsibility is to his art. He will be completely ruthless if he is a good one. He has a dream. It anguishes him so much that he can't get rid of it. He has no peace until then. Everything goes by the board: honor, pride, decency, security, happiness, all, to get the book written. If a writer has to rob his mother, he will not hesitate; the "Ode on a Grecian Urn" is worth any number of old ladies. (Wm. Faulkner)

Give a thief enough rope... and he'll use it to tie you up, beat you up, and steal all your stuff...



My life in one sentence: I keep getting bottle caps that say, "Try again." And so I do...

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