
Monday, October 30, 2017
JUST LIKE THAT REISSUED!
Hi folks,
Got some news--Down and Out Books has just reissued my novel, JUST LIKE THAT! It has a new cover which I really like. If you haven't read it before you might want to glom onto a copy now. It's about 85% autobiographical and is centered on a road trip I made with a rappie from Pendleton and on my time in the joint.
Assistant Warden Cathy Johns of The Farm (Louisiana state joint at Angola) read it and told me it was "the truest account of the criminal mind" she'd ever read. One thing I promise--you won't see any bullshit about "shivs" or any crap like the myth MSNBC puts out about prisons in it...
Hope you get a copy and hope you enjoy the read. If you like it, please consider leaving a short review on Amazon and Goodreads. It's the single best thing you can do for a writer and we appreciate it when you do.
Blue skies,
Les
Got some news--Down and Out Books has just reissued my novel, JUST LIKE THAT! It has a new cover which I really like. If you haven't read it before you might want to glom onto a copy now. It's about 85% autobiographical and is centered on a road trip I made with a rappie from Pendleton and on my time in the joint.
Assistant Warden Cathy Johns of The Farm (Louisiana state joint at Angola) read it and told me it was "the truest account of the criminal mind" she'd ever read. One thing I promise--you won't see any bullshit about "shivs" or any crap like the myth MSNBC puts out about prisons in it...
Hope you get a copy and hope you enjoy the read. If you like it, please consider leaving a short review on Amazon and Goodreads. It's the single best thing you can do for a writer and we appreciate it when you do.
Blue skies,
Les
Friday, October 13, 2017
A COUPLE OF OPENINGS IN OUR ONLINE NOVEL-WRITING CLASS
Hi
folks,
As
most of you know, I run an online novel writing class that runs for ten weeks
at a time and is in operation year-round. We’re coming up to the end of the
current session this week, and then will take a couple of weeks off and then begin
the next session on October 29. Most times, we don’t have openings for new
class members, but it looks as if we’re going to have a couple of openings this
time, so I just want to let folks know in case anyone’s interested. If you are,
please send me an email at butchedgerton@comcast.net
and let me know. Below, I’ll give an outline of how it works. When new openings
occur, first chance to join is given to the adjuncts and after that it’s a
first-come, first-served basis. To be able to devote the proper time to each
student, the class will be limited to twelve people. An unlimited number of
adjuncts are taken.
Me and Joe Lansdale in Indy after a meal...
Auditors
Those
interested in auditing the class—which would allow the auditing person to
receive and view everything the rest of the class does, but not be able to
participate actively, solely as an observer. The fee is substantially less for
auditors than participating students at $50. Basically, auditors will sit in on
the class as an observer. There can be an unlimited number of auditors. Some in
class are uncomfortable with very many observing their work and our exchanges
as, to be honest, many of our comments are brutally frank. Students know and
welcome this, but to someone not directly participating can see it another way.
There won’t be any interaction at all with auditors—they’ll be there simply to
use the knowledge they might pick up for their own writing or even their own
teaching.
Pertinent info
for active class members:
This
class will be conducted in a workshop format. What that means is each week
participants will send a designated number of pages to both me and the other
members of the class. When I receive each person’s work, I’ll provide
comments/criticism/suggestions to improve for each student on their work and
then send it back to them and the others in class. Each person in class does
the same for each other—reading and providing comments on each other’s work and
sending that back to the class and me. The class is divided into two groups so
each person will need to read and comment on 5-6 people’s work. That doesn’t
mean they can’t read work from those in the other group—anyone can read anyone
else’s work. This is just to keep each member’s work down to a reasonable
level. It’s exactly like being in an “on-ground” workshop. I’ve found over a
lifetime of teaching classes—beginning with the UCLA Writer’s Program—that this
is the single best method of learning. There is a synergy at work with this
model. Many writing classes consist of the student sending work in and the
instructor commenting. That’s okay, in a limited way, but when you have ten
others plus the instructor or workshop leader commenting, the value of the
class increases almost exponentially.
I
believe in road maps when embarking on the lengthy journey a novel entails;
therefore, I ask each student to submit a 15-20 word outline of their proposed novel. I don’t have the space here
to explain how that works, but I send a handout on how to create such an
outline before the class begins, and it serves to keep the writer focused on
their novel throughout its creation and also helps the workshop leader and his/her
classmates see instantly if the writer is focused or meandering. I’m a firm
believer in beginning a novel in the proper place and once that is achieved,
the remainder of the novel becomes infinitely easier to create. We’ll spend the
most time on a writer’s novel beginning than any other part of their novel.
This
class will be composed of students who’ve previously taken classes with me
along with newcomers. To be able to serve each level of student fairly,
students who are well along into their novel and have taken previous classes,
will be able to submit up to eight pages per week. New students who haven’t
taken my class, will be allowed to submit up to four pages per week until
they’ve achieved a publishable opening, and, once they’ve achieved a proper
beginning, will then be able to send eight pages each week thereafter. Please
know that this may sound like favoritism, but it’s not at all. The beginning of
a novel is the single most crucial part of writing a novel, imo, and I spend
more time on that than anything else. I’ve learned over many years, that a
great many writers have a poor understanding of a novel’s structure and it’s
crucial that a sound knowledge of novel structure (particularly beginnings) be
achieved before devoting much time to the rest of the novel. I’ll spend as much
time on the newer student’s four pages than I will on the more experienced
writer’s. Please feel free to query those in class who’ve been with me before
as to their opinion and I feel certain they’ll agree with me. I’ll be happy to
furnish names and email addresses for those writers should you wish to ask
their opinion.
Periodically,
I also send handouts to the class on some element of writing, as well as other
pertinent info that’s useful.
Be
forewarned that this workshop isn’t for the faint of heart! Some have termed it
“Les Edgerton’s Bootcamp for Writers.” In “real life” I’m not a mean person,
but with writing I’m not going to hold hands nor hand out false praise. That’s
what writing groups are for and they do it well. I expect each person to
participate fully and comment on each other’s work just as they would want
others to do the same for theirs. I don’t tolerate very well, those who keep
making the same mistakes week after week. For example, the proper and
professional format is explained at the beginning and each class there are
always one or two newcomers who keep making the same, easily-fixed mistake.
Here’s a common example: One of the format rules is that there is only one
space between sentences in computer-generated material. Many older writers, in
the typewriter days of yore, were taught to use two spaces. The kernaling in
computers is different than typewriters and using two spaces is a sure sign of
an amateur who hasn’t kept up with current usages and just another red flag a
writer ought to avoid. I understand it’s a hard habit to overcome—I had to do
the same myself—but there is an easy way to relearn this which we give, and
even if it takes awhile to relearn this, a writer can at least do a final edit
before sending work in and correct this. To not do so, indicates to me a writer
who doesn’t respect either themselves or their fellow writers or the teacher.
Frankly, I don’t want to waste time with this type of writer. I’m not speaking
of the writer who makes occasional mistakes, but of the one who continually
keeps making the same mistake after it’s been pointed out.
Writing
well isn’t easy. It’s hard. If someone has told you that writing is easy,
they’ve lied to you. Typing is easy; writing is hard. Our aim in our class is
to help writers create publishable work. By reputable publishers, not vanity
presses.
If
I haven’t scared you off, here are the particulars:
1.
Fee is $400, payable in advance and nonrefundable. Auditor’s fee is $50 and is
also nonrefundable.
2.
Each week, you’ll send to the entire group and me, your pages. You’ll also
receive work from your classmates to read and provide comments on. The comments
aren’t intended to be scholarly or exhibit some high degree of technical
knowledge. We just want to know what worked for you in the writing and what
didn’t and why you think it did or didn’t.
3.
To help make the class run smoothly, there will be deadlines each week. For
instance, if the class begins on a Sunday each week, you’ll send in your work
by the following Wednesday. Then, starting on Thursday, you’ll send in your
comments on each other’s work. I’ll send my comments to each of you by Saturday
night. Then, the next week begins on the following Sunday.
4.
Often, the class and I kind of hit a wall. It’s pretty intense. To account for
that event, we may take a week hiatus and return the following week. In fact,
you can pretty well count on that.
5.
We don’t expect a student to be a professional writer at all. It’s a class, not
an advanced degree program. Our aim is to help each writer become better at
their craft as a result of the class, and to learn how to professionally submit
material, and to hopefully end up creating work that is publishable
legitimately.
6.
While I would never say I would recommend students to agents or publishers,
very often I do. The people who finish the class almost always have progressed
to the point where their work is, indeed, publishable, and when that happens
I’m eager to introduce them and their work to gatekeepers.
7.
Required reading will be my book, HOOKED, and Jack Bickham’s book, SCENES &
STRUCTURE. Recommended reading will be Janet Burroway’s WRITING FICTION.
If
anyone is interested and has more questions, please feel free to email me at butchedgerton@comcast.net.
Thank
you,
Les
P.S.
Some additional info…
We’ll have a couple of new students
this time—most writers keep re-upping each time but occasionally one or two
will drop out for various reasons: demands of a new job not allowing them to
commit the considerable time that is required to participate, needing time off
to address the notes their new agent just gave them for the novel he signed, and
so on. Most just keep on, even after they’ve gotten an agent and/or sold their
novel, and begin writing a new one. Almost all who stick out the entire session
come back. The ones who quit usually quit fairly soon into the class. It’s not
for everyone. Nobody holds anybody’s hand and every single one of us is focused
on but one thing—helping each other write a novel that’s publishable. It’s a
tough game and not for everyone.
I try to warn people who are
thinking of joining us, how tough the class is, but I know from past experience
that even so forewarned, at least some are going to be in for a shock when they
see that we really don’t hold hands, pat people on the back for minimum
efforts, or overlook writing that doesn’t work. I’m not cruel (at least I don’t
think so) nor are any of the oldtimers in class, but most new folks haven’t
been exposed to a class like ours. The truth is, most writers who haven’t had a
class like ours has been praised in other classes or most likely, has been in
classes that use the “sandwich” method of teaching. You know—that deal where
the teach applies a bit of praise, then a bit of criticism, and then a bit of
praise. Well, that ain’t our shtick. Not even close. The comments we all
provide on everyone’s work fit one definition only. They’re honest.
This isn’t to be mean or to act like
we’re the only folks around who know what good writing is. Except… we do. I’m
not aware of any other class out there with the kind of track record ours
enjoys. Virtually every writer who stays the course with us ends up with a top
agent and/or a book deal. That doesn’t happen in a single ten-week session.
About the earliest anyone has earned an agent or book deal in our class has
been about a year. And, that’s reasonable.
The thing is, our writers don’t
expect things to be easy.
Here are a few comments by students:
Hi ________. Since Les opened the
floor for comments from the "class veterans" I'm chipping in with my
two cents. I have a file cabinet filled with stuff I sent Les and then needed
asbestos gloves to take the paper off the printer. When I started this journey,
I'd never taken an English class past high school. (I was pre-med in college) I
figured I love to read, so how hard can it be? Okay, quit laughing at me.
Clearly, when I wrote my first version of my first novel, I had no idea about
story structure, POV, any of that. I figured I'm pretty articulate and
therefore I can write?
Les quickly set me straight. All of
this is to point out that we've all been on the receiving end of Les' brutal
honesty. I will find some of the comments he made on my work and post them but
phrases like "throwing up in my mouth now" and "bury this so
deep in the yard no one ever finds it" are seared into my brain and I
don't have to look to find those!!! The point is, I took other classes before I
met Les and the teachers were kind and gentle and never told me I sucked. If it
weren't for Les, I'd still be churning out awful drivel that makes people want
to throw up instead of trying not to throw up while I wait to see if my agent
is able to sell my book. I would never have gotten an agent without Les. So
hang in there. Listen to everything he says and if it doesn't make sense, ask
away.
The novel that I am currently trying
to sell has been a work in progress since 2009. The first time Les saw it he
sent it back and told me to re-write the WHOLE thing!!! My character was a
wimp. She sat back and let things happen to her. I argued a little, rewrote a
little and then moved on to another book. After a year, I went back and reread
it and saw the truth. It was awful. So I took a deep breath and started over.
Page one. First sentence. Re-wrote the entire thing. It took a full year and
then I revised it again. It's definitely a process. But once you get the
Inciting incident and the outline steps down pat, it's a whole lot easier.
Trust me!!! And you'll never graduate completely. A few months ago, Les and I
went head-to-head on one single passage. I was trying to be lazy and take the
easy way out. He called me on it and I resubmitted three or four weeks in a
row, revisions on the same passage. I was sure my classmates were so sick of it
they were going to stick needles in their eyes rather than read it again! But
in the end, the passage rocked!! So hang in there!!!! It'll get better.
That’s all, folks…
Wednesday, October 4, 2017
HOOKED... WITH JERRY JENKINS...
Hi folks,
Got an unusual post today. Recently, I was invited by mega bestselling author Jerry Jenkins (Left Behind series and many other bestsellers) to take part in an interview with him for his Master Class series of classes for writers on my book Hooked. We had a blast and here's the video his crew headed by Matt Lempert produced. Jerry has generously allowed me to post it on my blog and other sites.
To watch it in its entirety, click here. I see it's possible to click on the picture below, but if you do, you only see half of the picture and none of my lovely kisser, so to see the whole enchilada, just click on the link. Thanks!
Any and all comments are appreciated!
Blue skies,
Les
Got an unusual post today. Recently, I was invited by mega bestselling author Jerry Jenkins (Left Behind series and many other bestsellers) to take part in an interview with him for his Master Class series of classes for writers on my book Hooked. We had a blast and here's the video his crew headed by Matt Lempert produced. Jerry has generously allowed me to post it on my blog and other sites.
To watch it in its entirety, click here. I see it's possible to click on the picture below, but if you do, you only see half of the picture and none of my lovely kisser, so to see the whole enchilada, just click on the link. Thanks!
Fiction that Grabs Readers at Page 1 with Les Edgerton
Any and all comments are appreciated!
Blue skies,
Les
MAGNA CUM MURDER!
Hi
folks,
In
a few weeks, I’m heading down the road to Indianapolis for the Magna cum Murder
convention, held from Oct. 20-22. This will be my second time at this
writers/fans convention and it’s one of the best around. This time I’ll be
privileged to take part in two panels, one as the moderator and the other as a
panelist.
Click here to go to their webpage.
- E.B. and Bertha C. Ball Center
- Magna cum Murder

My
first panel is Saturday, October 21, 2017, followed by a booksigning.
1:30-2:25 p.m. Title: All In A
Day's Work Description: When your protagonist's day job is integral to the plot
Moderator/Panelists: Les Edgerton (moderator), Mary Anna Evans, Joe Reese,
T'Gracie Reese, Lorena Reith, Jr
Booksigning at:
4th Floor 2:30-2:55 p.m. Signings: Mary Anna Evans, Les Edgerton, Donna
Moore, Joe Reese, T'Gracie Reese, Lorena Reith, Jr., Andrew Taylor, Caroline
Todd, Charles Todd, Reavis Wortham Library Messanine
My second panel is on Sunday morning from 9-9:55 a. m.
Title: Too Much Of Anything Is A Bad Thing
Description: Where do you stand on on-the-page violence? Moderator/Panelists:
Dianna Collier (moderator), Les Edgerton, Ruth Dudley Edwards, John Gilstrap,
Andrew Taylor
Followed by a booksigning from 10:00-10:25 a.m.
Signings: Carolyn Paul Branch, Les Edgerton, Ruth Dudley Edwards, John
Gilstrap, Susan Kiernan-Lewis, Carolyn Mulford, Susan Oleksiw, Elaine Orr, J.R.
Ripley, C.L. Shore, Sheila Sobel, Andrew Taylor, Charles Todd L
There are a bunch of other great panels you can check out on the site.
Hope to see some of you guys there!
Blue skies,
Les
Tuesday, September 5, 2017
Interview on Susan Wingate's radio show
Hi folks,
Sorry for the last-minute notification, but it had completely slipped my mind until now! If you get a chance, I'll be chatting with Susan Wingate on her podcast/radio show today at 1 PM EST. Click on the link.
Sorry for the last-minute notification, but it had completely slipped my mind until now! If you get a chance, I'll be chatting with Susan Wingate on her podcast/radio show today at 1 PM EST. Click on the link.
If you can't make the broadcast live, you can go to the link and listen any time that's convenient.
Blue skies,
Les
Sunday, September 3, 2017
Another of our classmates sells her book!
Hi folks,
I love being able to report on
great news like this. Yet another of our classmates in my online novel-writing
class has sold her first book! This is the second one this year, following Todd
Monohan’s success story earlier in the year when he sold his first novel, The Vexing Heirloom.
Welcome the world of published
novelists, Linda Thompson, with her magnificent book titled, The Plum Blooms in Winter, to be
published by Mountain Brook Ink.
Here. I’ll let Linda make the announcement
in her own words as she did via an email to me yesterday when I asked her for
details.
She said:
Hi, Les!
Yes yes YES, it’s true!! Sorry, I HAVE been
meaning to write you… because I’m deeply, deeply in your debt—no one has meant
more to my writing career than you have!
I have a three-book deal! The Plum Blooms in
Winter is supposed to launch in January 2019, and I’m contracted for
two more books after that. I’m delighted to work with the team at Mountain Brook Ink. They produce outstanding books.
Given that it took me six years to write
book one, I am kind of nervous about having just 15 months to deliver book two.
Granted, I’ve been well schooled now– I sure had a lot to learn when I started
out! But I know I need to get really serious about my daily word count goals.
And as always, there’s a lot of “life” going down, so it’s a challenge to
balance everything.
Yes, please give a big shout-out to everyone in
class, who’ve been so amazingly helpful in this process! And to yourself—I
really do owe anything I’ve achieved as a writer to you.
Much love, Linda
And much love to you, Linda! It was
Linda who found and arranged for our class’s site on the Intergnat, and who has
maintained it for us for the past six years. She’s been one of our most
faithful class members, showing up each and every week to send us her work and
to provide her commentary on her fellow classmate’s work each and every week.
She began with me when I taught the novel-writing class for Phoenix College way
back when and came with me when I began our current class six years ago. She’s
family!
Even though it took her six years
to write her first book, it has nothing to do with her being a slow writer. On
the contrary—it’s taken this long only because she’s a perfectionist. She has
always made sure every word was the right word and she is a throwback to
writers of yore—she has rewritten every page of her book until it was, indeed,
perfect. That’s rare today in the modern world of people of little patience and
a proclivity for instant gratification. Linda is a writer’s writer and that’s
the highest compliment I am able to give. There are more than a couple more
like Linda in our class and like her, their day will come, too.
A three-book deal is becoming a
rare event in publishing, especially for a first-time novelist. I suspect they
didn’t see her first book as what normally crosses their desk from first-time
novelists—Linda just approaches her craft with the kind of care and attention
that’s more associated with a generation known for their attention to craft.
When the publication day comes, I’ll
be sure to post it here. It’s going to be a big book—that I can promise!
Blue skies,
Les
Taken last year on a visit to Scottsdale to visit my best fiend,
Tom Rough and got to spend a day with a couple of our
Bootcamp for Writers. On my right is one of our most esteemed graduates. Maegan Beaumont. and on my left is today's star--Linda Thompson.
P.S. Update on Todd Monahan! I got
an email from him the same day I got Linda’s. Here’s what
Todd had to report—more exciting
news! I’d asked him about a report that
his first novel was being considered as a possible film.
Les!
Great to hear from you,
and I hope your recovery is progressing.
Through a mutual relative,
I was put in touch with a woman who works in Hollywood, as a contact and possible
conduit to a studio that might be interested in the project. She wrote me a
letter, which I posted on Facebook, saying that she likes the book, but that it
would be a hard sell because it's not an established brand yet. But, she said,
if the right producer/director comes along, she thinks it would be perfect for
screen treatment. So that's pretty much where I'm at.
On another positive
note, I am about 4/5 done with my next novel and I'm looking at a Summer 2018
release. It was originally intended to be a YA coming of age novella
(think "Stand By Me" meets "A Christmas Story") but the
project has grown and changed to the point I think it will be marketable to
adults, too.
Another funny thing: a
few weeks ago, my publisher asked me to review a potential author's manuscript
and give critique, much like we do in your class. The woman has ability but the
story was nonexistent, structurally, and needed a lot of work. I tried to
explain the concepts as you taught me, of surface problem, story-worthy
problem, inciting incident, etc. She got very angry, told me I didn't know what
I was talking about, and pulled the project from us. Just underscores that not
everyone is ready to hear the truth. I am glad I had you for a teacher.
How have you been? How
is the class and how are the other writers?
Todd
Todd G. Monahan
Attorney-at-Law
Cool news, Todd, and we’re glad we
had you for a classmate as well! As you can see, your classmates are doing
well. Several more have finished their novels and we’ll be posting more success
stories in the near future.
Sunday, July 30, 2017
POST SURGERY UPDATE
Hi
folks,
I
appreciate all the emails, cards and calls people have so graciously sent me
over my recent spinal surgery. I can’t begin to tell each and every one of you
how much your thoughts and well-wishes mean to me.
It
looks as the surgery was a success. I should know if so in detail by this
coming Thursday when I have my first post-op interview with my wonderful orthopedic
surgeon, Dr. Roger Shugart, who is simply brilliant, besides being the kind of guy
you’d love to go have beers with!
Up
until today, I wasn’t sure if it had been successful as I’ve been in a lot of unrelenting
pain, and then I woke up this ayem and it had eased considerably—not 100%--but
at least by 40%, and that’s huge.
Having
a few post-op issues, namely my bowels have forgotten how to work… but I’ll get
that sorted out I’m sure.
Above
it all my wife Mary has been an absolute angel! She’s done virtually everything
for me and never complained for a second. On top of her working killer hours on
her own bad knees and never complaining one time, time after time she was there
to prop up my spirits. I know I wouldn’t have made it without her by my side.
And our son, Mike, who took off work to take care of me when his mom had to
work. I’m so blessed to have them in my life. My other two kids would have been
there to help as well, but that wasn’t possible as they both live out of state--Britney
in Louisville (where she was in the hospital herself)—and Sienna in Michigan.
We
took off my dressing for the final time today and I had Mary take pictures and
here they are!
This shot was taken four days after the surgery.
This shot was taken a couple of hours ago.
Again,
thank all of you so much—your thoughts helped through all of this—I love you
each and every one.
Blue
skies,
Les
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